Fun with reader e-mails

Pictured: A reader of mine.

Pictured: A reader

In Saturday’s paper, I wrote this column suggesting the Big 12 redraw its divisional lines, from North-South to East-West. I wrote it as a response to Kansas’ sixth-consecutive Big 12 championship, on the basic premise that KU has an advantage in the conference race because it plays Iowa State, Colorado and Nebraska a combined six times, while the South division teams only play them three times.

Going East-West would make the league more balanced.

I expected people to disagree. That’s cool. But what I was not expecting was somebody to read that column and conclude I was a KU homer. I mean, the column was based on the premise that KU has had an unfair advantage for all these years. Agree or disagree, surely you can’t see a pro-KU bias in that column, can you?

That is exactly what happened, from a reader named Kathy.

I have changed nothing about these e-mails, except to redact her e-mail address.

From: Kathy L [mailto:xxxxx@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sun 3/7/2010 9:35 AM
To: Corcoran, Tully
Subject: RE: wow

Man, Tully, where did that come from? Granted, KU is a basketball school and they are good. I had no idea that gives you the right to beat your chest and thumb your nose at us “lesser” teams – I remember teams and parents that did that in middle school when they had a good team and it was just as annoying then, but we just figured they had no class.

I think the fact of the matter is, at least for KSU fans,(and I would guess the other programs you referred to) putting KU in another division would take away easy wins for us in 3 other sports – football, volleyball and women’s basketball (see past 15 years). I guess we have had to just concede men’s basketball in order to have an annual “whipping boy” in other sports – so be it.

And remember, what goes around, comes around – who knows what will happen next year in basketball, or the year after that, etc.

And, if KU is all about national championshps, how many have they won – and how many have they won without major NCAA infractions?

And my response:


From: Corcoran, Tully <tully.corcoran@cjonline.com>
Subject: RE: wow
To: “Kathy L” <xxxxx@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 4:18 PM

Man, Tully, where did that come from?

Years of watching Big 12 North basketball and
football.

Granted, KU is a basketball school and they are good.
I had no idea that gives you the right to beat your chest
and thumb your nose at us “lesser” teams – I remember
teams and parents that did that in middle school when they had a
good team and it was just as annoying then, but we just
figured they had no class.

There was no chest beating or nose thumbing, there.
The facts are unavoidable. Iowa State, Nebraska and
Colorado are not competitive with the top tier teams in the Big
12.

I think the fact of the matter is, at least for KSU
fans,(and I would guess the other programs you
referred to) putting KU in another division would take away easy wins for us in 3 other sports – football, volleyball and women’s basketball (see past 15 years). I guess we have had to
just concede men’s basketball in order to have an annual
“whipping boy” in other sports – so be it.

With all due respect, when conferences re-align, add
teams, lose teams, whatever, nobody cares about
non-revenue-generating sports, and the only
revenue-generating sports at Big 12 schools are
football and men’s basketball.

And remember, what goes around, comes around – who
knows what will happen next year in basketball, or the year
after that, etc.

We can’t predict the future, of course. I’m sure
Kansas is not going to win six more Big 12 championships in a
row, but the Big 12 has been around since 1996, and, as was the
basis of the column, Kansas has owned it the whole time, in
part because its gets to roll the bottom feeders in the
north six time a year. Re-alignment would make the league more
fair to South teams, who face better competition in their
division.

And, if KU is all about national championshps, how
many have they won – and how many have they won without
major NCAA infractions?

Kansas has won three NCAA titles and two Helms
national titles. KU was on NCAA probation after the 1988 title
and during the 2008 title run. But the point I was making
was that KU’s program and its fans are pretty much always
evaluating their team’s season based on how close it
came to winning the national championship, not the conference
championship.

But I suppose your question was meant to be rhetorical.

Anyway, thanks for reading,

Tully

Here is where the wheels really come off. Try to figure out what Kathy is trying to argue, here.

From: Kathy L [mailto:xxxxx@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sun 3/7/2010 9:35 AM
To: Corcoran, Tully
Subject: RE: wow

So if you were talking about football and basketball
“revenue” your point doesn’t even apply – we (KSU, CU, Nebr)
never got less money for administering severe beatings in
football to KU for many years in a row. It seemed to me that
you were talking about KU not being challenged enough in the
North because they happen to be good at 1 sport.

Anyway, ESPN lists KU’s ratio of national championships to
major NCAA infractions at minus 2, just so you know.

Have a good day

Tag, I’m it.

From: Corcoran, Tully <tully.corcoran@cjonline.com>
Subject: RE: wow
To: “Kathy L” <xxxxx@yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 4:58 PM
I’m afraid you might not understand
the meaning of the term “revenue generating” in this
context.

The only point I was making about revenue-generating sports
is that they are the only sports that are given
consideration when conferences are formed or re-aligned.
Conferences are about money. Revenue generation in this
context doesn’t have anything to do with the results of the
games, and I never suggested anything like that.

I’m also afraid you disagree with the premise of my column
— that Kansas has dominated the Big 12 in basketball, and
has been especially good against three schools. You may not
like my suggestion for changing that, but to argue against
the premise would be aggressively ignorant.

Good day,

Tully Corcoran
Kansas beat writer
The Capital-Journal
(785) 295-5652

And here comes a response I don’t even know how to answer.

From: Kathy L [mailto:xxxxxx@yahoo.com]
Sent: Mon 3/8/2010 9:28 AM
To: Corcoran, Tully
Subject: RE: wow

Hey, no need to be defensive – I thought you guys were supposed to be impartial…..

I have no idea how either of those points are related. I don’t know why she used a dash instead of a period. I don’t know why there are ellipses on the end. I can understand why she thinks I’m being defensive, but I don’t understand the point about being impartial.

I reply.

From: Corcoran, Tully <tully.corcoran@cjonline.com>
Subject: RE: wow
To: “Kathy L” <xxxxx@yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, March 8, 2010, 11:388 AM

Let me make sure I understand you.

You think I’m a Kansas fan who wants the Big 12 to make it MORE difficult for Kansas to win Big 12 championships? Is this accurate?

Tully

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2 thoughts on “Fun with reader e-mails

  1. This is why most women should not argue sports. They misinterpret everything and then get offended waaaay too easily. Classic

  2. hey Tully. I just read your article on Lebron james being the best player in the world. Im sorry, who are you again? oh that’s right, a no body like the rest of us, and im surprised you were allotted so much fuckin opinion about LeBron. I don’t have much against LeBron james, but that sounds like heatnation bandwagon to me, tully nobody. You are a jack knob. He flopped multiple times in that game (game 6) and spurs lost because of missed freethrows. Get your facts straight you fucking union east coast fuck. You better not be union. Actually I hope you are, don’t ever come down south tully jackknob nobody, where we can fuck your punk bitch journalist ass up. Im glad im going into media communications so I can PUNK dudes like you. You are a NOBODY. Ooo boy I cant wait to go to the 4 year, and take communications and out do fucking knobs like you.

    email me back, coward.

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